The Dream PT 8 (near end)

Thank you world..

 We are near 7000 visitors, thank you anonymous guys, than you to be with me..
 Maybe one day all os this will make sense, maybe its too late, well, the time is running.
 I've met Em and Pak in a dream today, and a guest with big head.. He seems cold a lot, i guess he doesnt feel anything... and i cant touch him, he gave me a shock, that made me wake up here on Earth this dammit burned my body in real live, this made me shock....
 Well, i guess now im going to the bad side of all of this, Pakaol respect this guy a lot, like he are more old than he, they talk by mind and voice, Pakaol says to me what he are saying .
 He is cold, black eyes, look i TRIED to draw him:

 He telled me to call him Emertep (maybe is this how i can write, Pak have difficulty to speak with him, i guess he doesnt stop to ask him or talk to him in his mind).
he wear black clothes, i dont know the material, It seems to be made of a different kind of wire, because before taking the shock I felt that her clothes looked half isolated .. aslike im touching in very very very small wires.
He had this symbol that shone in his clothes as well.
Im worried about Pak, something is wrong.


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And i said:

_How will you read my blog? im not from this world!

Ortiz said:

_You not from this time.

I said:

_I know, i just need to know what are happening? why im here?

Pakaol said:

_Close your eyes both of you.

I saw Ortiz closed, and i did as well..
Qzry started to burn, A LOT... when i feel a touch in my forehead..... so cold.....cold...

And i saw a flash, when i wake up in a military bed, can see Ortiz with his uniform started to wake up too,  some officer entered in our room and says:

_Ortiz! Are you ready for the test? You, John, come on too!

I asked myself, why he call me John??? When i saw my name in my uniform: "John"

Ortiz telled me:
_ Just follow me, and saw. (i asked myself: Does he know I am not John?)

I followed Ortiz, saw a bunch of Officials, they look scared, when we going to a corridor, i started to feel fear, everything looks very strange, I felt that I was not going to like what I was going to see..

When in front of the corridor i saw a big door, and Ortiz opened....

What....the....hell...

 I saw standing Pakaol near the conference table, motionless, and he looked at me .. the room was packed with high-ranking officers, I noticed a project of a car on the table, and they were looking for this project ... the car was visibly modified, I had some strange machines in it.

 Ortiz said:
_Sir, im ready!

 Some type of a officer big ranked said:
_Ok, lets go, take the Alien with us.

They go to another door, saw the sun outside, and dust.. i looked to Pak again, he did not take the eye of me, until suddenly a soldier pointed at him go to the door, Pakaol pointed at me, and came walking toward my direction ... The soldier comes too..

 He saw that I was looking car design, and pointed to a map position to i look..

 Project Year: 2034

 I looked at him, im soo scared... What the hell im doing here? Why a car attract officials?

 Pak started to go ouside, the soldier was with us too, when i hear the middle of a conversation with the "General" and Ortiz:
_.....and caution on singularity..... avoid negative space, get the prototype, but back soon...

 Ortiz called me:

_John, come on! give me a hug!

 The car looked very modified, saw some black and yellow boxes inside the car, some things to he take oxygen, the car was covered with some plates outside, and had only one bank and the next was like a mattress, maybe to he sleep?

 John have a document in his hand, i just remember 204 number and some words on english, he hugs me, was too fast to read the entire document.
 John telled in my ears:

_I will be back, my friend.

Pakaol started to check the car, looking each thing... and the general said:

_Ortiz, you cant use your name, never, what will be your name?

Ortiz looked at me, smiled and said:

_John

The general said:
_You both deserves each other, so ,John, go back and press the red button behind our door to sound the attention alarm!
I did, and when i pressed the Alarm.... I wake up in the ship, With Ortiz in my side, sleeping, and Pak looking at us.

I asked Pakaol:
_Why you just waken me up?
He said:

_I need you to saw other thing.. close your eyes..

I Closed, when suddenly I'm walking near a snack bar that had a rain protection red.
suddenly I looked at the sky and saw a shooting star was falling .... the morning, but still saw the sun setting .. the street was full ...
I pointed to the star and asked the looks people .. they were amazed by what they saw ....
But the star was rising .. increasing more and more, and coming our way, when we started to run as far as possible.

I managed to find a construction field, which protected me behind an iron beam .. and looked the falling object ....

It was a huge burst .. but there was no explosion ... suddenly heard someone shout among the desperate people:

_ Not burst!
I went to the location, very afraid, where I saw a rock the size of about two meters, black with holes ashes, she was half derretira made tremendous a hole in the street, he blew half of that diner, but not opened nor dispersed.

When an idiot be decided touching the stone to see if it was hot ... started dating a bixos from within, totally weird, like living water with legs, with light green appearance ... and left too fast, some dug the land and other people jumped in ... chaos was restored, they looked like they were not going to finish out of it .. when I was running, I fell .. and woke up on the ship ..I saw Pakaol leaving Ortiz sleeping on the ground of the park ... and he told me:

_ Time to go back to your reality, our. Wise man, just some things to consider as you saw here. I gave the same gift that he gave you, but he was lost in the real world in his time.

And Pakaol went on to say:

_ I am an Arcturian, my race protects humans since times we tried to make them perfect, not impeding their freedom.
 _But you decided to go its own way, become corrupt and accepted everything that was new, mostly you say "Aliens" of another race, that wanted for any other purpose.
_They were attacked by, call them gray, there are those who have a good purpose and there are those who have bad purpose, a class of so-called bad Zetas (thank you Kolin) that remain on your planet, spreading their evil purposes.
 _We slaughter one of his ships in an area that is now known to you, but there still there a piece that I need.
 _I can not catch it, but it was forgotten in the crash site, dig the site at 30 meters, and use equipment that capture radiation to find what I seek.
 _Ortiz is of your time, he was born normal on Earth, but you is way more younger than him, which was lost in time, today he is on Eden, so I'm telling you that you are the only one who could handle what I'm doing so far.
 _But for all that you have seen, Ortiz saw in visions, and I need you to go to other humans who follow you know the truth, some visions that he writed, will happens, others no, he lose control over reality.
 _In 1 month in Earth time, I'm going to visit one by one of your followers, tell then to not be afraid, but I have to leave something in the house of each one.
  _Now, wake up.

I said:

_It was time?

He said:

_Touch me.

I said:
_I cant touch you, you said!

He said:
_Now you can, Wise human.

I touched him... feel my energies going down... everything dizzy....turning....Black.

Wake up... on my Bed on Earth?
_No.. on my Bed on Eden, with Em and Pak looking at me.... Em smiled and said:

_What a travel!

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Comments

  1. Very interesting Tunt, I have a comment which will explain a lot and I'd like Pak to have a look at it.

    Im still thinking about whether to make this comment public or not, if I don't I will contact you via pm on 'voat'

    Where possible I always do everything publicly but the only reason I don't if possible is for the 'protection' of the race I want to talk about.

    I'm finding this very interesting.

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    1. Do it! Or at least tell to me too, I'm genuinely interested. My mail if you want!

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    2. Commander, mail me on voar or on beyonduniversess@gmail.com .. Please. Hugs!

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    3. I can't access Voat... says:
      This account has been locked out for security reasons.
      So sad.. i did nothing..

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  2. This is too much! I'm glad you're getting better Tunt, seems things are more quiet now and you are now learning new things now! Nonetheless they are quite interesting.

    I don't know if it's how you drew Emertep or something else but he/she/?? gives me bad vibes. I hope nothing bad happens...

    I'm not sure if Pakaol will contact with me or something but I wish he do... although maybe in the end nothing will happen to me. Hope he do to you all at last and put here your experiencies so we can learn from them too :)

    But anyway, best of luck Tunt and you all!

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  3. @luster

    Yeah it's kind of if I told you you could be at risk in a sense, it's hard to explain, because if I send you an email and later on you have it they might see that as a risk to them, which by default would make you a 'target' also don't forget 'the NSA' yeah our group basically run them. So anything on here is open to that, the point is Earth itself is a small issue but the bigger issue is how we move forward, there is no way forward unless we know what everyone wants as an 'end game'

    Avoiding war is always more efficient than fighting it, guaranteed.

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    1. Wouldn't it be the same if you told Tunt or others too? There should be a way... but I respect your decision, you're doing the correct thing.

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  4. I look forward to meeting Pak and he knows my intentions are honorable.
    I will use any device he gives me if he looks me in the eyes and tells me all it's purposes and functions.

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    1. What kind of device you think it is? Maybe will be something that will make one able to "teleport" or travel, or heal and improve ourselves... I thought of that because Tunt mission; going to Roswell crash place and dig it to find something and he would need our help maybe?

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  5. Also guys despite Emerteps perfect persona of a supervillan you have to remember your programming as a human, i also wear black, people like different fashion ha, to judge people in the galaxies on visual is a huge mistake, only judge actions.

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  6. @luster

    The reason I can't reply in the 'reply' is the comments are broken, not really not for tunt, he's pretty much a 'dual citizen' now, it doesn't mater if you are CIA NSA or ONI it doesn't matter unless you are right now having daily face to face conversations with Zeta guys.
    If you are Then just say so and I will email you, if younare not then anything I say to you that comes from me will put you at risk in future.
    Its not like a risk 'deadly risk' it just narrows your options.
    Of course it could be for nothing, in which case don't worry.
    It's honestly for your own 'options' I.e you have more options by not knowing. (Or having me say it to you) im trying to find a solution so we can all find acceptable. It's hard to explain.

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    1. I understand. And no I do not talk with any ET though haha, hopefully with Pakaol somday... But send me a mail at least to discuss things more privately instead of spamming the comment zone! As you want :)

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  7. @luster
    Likely...

    The device will just be a metal pendant of some sort it won't look any different to anything you could buy at a thrift store, you could take it to anyone and they would think its just a pendant.
    It will be Q reordered to your own Qsoul encryption, so this is why Pak would have to have interaction with you before that time, to take a scan then he will program the metal pendant to your Qsoul.

    After that who knows? If yiunhold it and sleep he could transport you to a new container in an alternative multiverse, you could go to eden you could have a face to face conversion with him.

    The acturians race are as mentioned previously like the 'galactic police' in this section of the universe, but as I don't remember or never met them previously, I can't know unfortunately I only know the peices I have put together.

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    1. If it's something like that it'll be fine, I would love to meet you all for example, in Eden (but we sleep at different times because time zones) but better than that, the device with that features but also fast travel or something...

      Don't forget that Tunt will need help to accomplish is mission. From my point of view, going Roswell is quite hard, going to crash place, easy, dig a 30m hole there without anyone noticing, quite quite hard... but probably he has Pakaol and Emertep help, although they could do that quite easily with their tech.

      Hope we know any time soon, honestly.

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  8. Interesting, but it leaves some questions unanswered, I'm not understanding very well what is going to happen to earth, or what Pak really wants... I'm also curious about those formulas Wiley said he would show you...

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    1. I was wondering that aswell , like is the whole mission Roswell? Or is there more? Hopefully we find out in the upcoming posts

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  9. So fascinating all of it. What I had the most trouble understanding though was the part with the guy touching the stone & you said "started dating a bixos from within"

    also does your family know about all of this, have you warned them & let them read your journal?

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    1. Hello open Mind! Nice to see you there :D

      My Mother tell me just that all of this is a gift from God (She's Protestant Evangelical)...
      She read, but says that only God know the meanings of all of this.
      She says will call a evangelical pastor to pray for me to God help me in this thing..
      Well, i'll let her do all that she want.. i dont want to saw her sad.
      hugs

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    2. Can you please tell me where you read this "started dating a bixos from within" to i search in my journal? because bixos its like "insect" to english, but i didnt writed properly and google doesnt recognized the word to translate :/ i will fix to you my friend :D

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    3. Hey Tunt, glad you answered !

      Well good thing your mom doesn't think you're crazy..& she understands you got gifted *hugs*

      & the part where I was confused, (by the 2 meter rock crashing) the paragraph starts:

      "When an idiot be decided touching the stone to see if it was hot ... started dating a bixos from within, totally weird, like living water with legs, .."

      Thankyou, you're so kind :)

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  10. Ok listen carefully, (and tunt correct me if I'm wrong)

    I may be able to explain most of the connection to Roswell, I have some relationship with the Race that has a bilateral contract with the 'Us gov' this is a contract.

    The Roswell connection is how the original race made contact with the government and now how they have the contract in place.

    Likely Pak (and co) are going through multiverse to see if or find evidence where the Zetas broke the intergalactic protocol, if they did this then the contract is null and void.

    Some humans (such as the ones in the multiverse with the car) probably rebelled against the original contractor's, I.e these are NSA ONI and other militarily guys that maybe in the (50s 60s) were looking to extricate themselves from a contract they see as inequitable.

    Somehow they got in contact with Pak or Pak (and the Acturians) help them build a device in which they can try to find this evidence (whatever it is) to prove that the contract was a set up. (I.e the Zetas tricked the humans would be the allegations)

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  11. I assume if the evidence can be found then the Zetas will be banned from earth and the 'US gov corp' will collapse. (Or have a big change)

    As this is the group I'm by default involved with though my relationship with the former Queen he Qsoul is what it is, the Zetas have energetic implants in her also she has many devices to communicate to her family, which are the purple Reptilains.
    Btw I finished my book, I helped overthrow the dictatorship of generals and give all the classes of that society a more equitable future, I did this in conjunction with the former Queen (who was technically overthrown) but saved many lives by abdication, in which case the 'elite' group split from the rest, the present guys are the 'revolutionaries' I helped become free.

    But it's been a long time between drinks I guess.

    Anyhow this present matter of earth, how to proceed?

    Well it's clear the Zetas and Paks group have history, what's the motivation for this contract of control? Was it to use humans in the future?

    Also tunt did you ask what happened to the Binary star in wasn't asking to Pak but more as somhe could tell you, I know what happened, I just wanted to see if you knew. I didn't need to know the reason, I know all that.

    My question is I have access to the 'Zetas' ( if this is thd Rits) (as Pak seemed to confirm) so in theory you can say I have access to the people that run the western world. (Really) by the way I've already told them what I think about it, but what is the solution, no one is presently giving me information, im happy to try to work towards a solution that both Pak and the Zetas are happy with. (As Pak has intergalactic authority if he can find thd evidence I guess he will act anyhow)
    But in the meantime, I wonder if we can find a solution where by the Z give up that contract in leu of another with not controlling power but still an outcome that is favorable?
    This goes a little to my plan and system.
    The Zetas can't threaten me we already had a 'disagreement' in which we nearly caused our very own 'Roswell' right here in an Australian car park, I.e they nearly lost a small ship, after that I have been treated with a little more respect. They apologized and we are on a 'normal' relationship. (Apart from the few vauge threats here an there ha ha )

    Pak wants to find a solution to 'humans' he doesn't want us used as 'for hire soldiers' I agree but I want to help my revolutionary family advance also, the Zetas as not my family but they are people with hopes and dreams (I assume) like anyone else and are a part presently of our group.

    How do we find a solution where all parties get what they want?
    I do have some ideas.

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  12. Also Tunt please read all this, you have tomsee it from the point of view of Pak and Emertep humans are liable to be tricked and even when not tricked apparently we will go with the 'higest galactic bidder' we may have caused and created unspeakable acts of mass murder, corruption and war.

    So I hope everyone understands, it may well be that the 'human type' container has the reputation in the galaxies as a 'for hire' 'bounty hunter race'

    So you know if they aren't looking at you in a 'loving adorable' way that could be why.

    My best guess is where we are right now is , The Purple Reptilians don't want to use the humans , but I think the Zetas did, the Reptilians just want no make sure earth humans are not (once again) used against them, this is a statement because having the Zetas in control by default means they are in control by proxy.

    However I have put forward a solution, that might help both Pak and our group, and not inhibit human freedom, I have been a human 'a long time' so

    I learned alot about economics and sociology I have the solutioni believe and it is a baseline solution that will work with any 'human type' race.

    If Pak can come and meet me I will try to show him if he doesn't already have it. Also im working on a generic contract which will allow any approved race visit and work towards this solution basically giving private residency.

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  13. Hello again my friend.

    I'm having trouble sleeping so thought I would write to you instead :)

    I want to say that I am very happy that you health has returned! I was getting very worried for you. It's been great to see you have been so active.

    I'm really looking forward to Pakaol visiting me...
    I find it very interesting because as I have been walking at night I have been saying to him "Pakaol, please come and visit me" (which is why I asked to make sure I am saying his name correctly) - I wonder if he has heard me?

    I know he said in 1 month time, but I have already started to keep a watch out for him.
    It was funny, I heard a purring noise and thought "Is it Pakaol's ship?"; but alas it was the airconditioning unit outside. haha

    Hugs.

    To Pakaol: I will not be afraid and please do not be afraid of me. I ask please, that if you enter my house please announce your presence to me by saying "do not be afraid"; that way I know it is you and not a human-intruder.

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    1. I'm sorry Paul, I didn't mean to startle you.

      You have nothing to fear from me! Please post :)

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  15. Oh my friend, I've been meaning to ask, how are the white beans doing?

    Are they growing well?

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    1. With all those bad days they died :(
      Hugs to you my friend.

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    2. Aww, I'm sorry to hear that the beans died :(
      Hugs to you too

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  16. @tunt I'll email you certainly, I'll also ask the dev about you being locked out I think I still have your user also ha just call me Kol, I bet Pak said 'call him commander' because he wanted me to know he knew, he knows all about the past.
    Im here as a learner and to find solutions that help us all.
    Try maybe to make a new user, in mean time I will ask about yours on there.

    Thanks for sharing all this, and hopefully we can all meet soon.

    Love share !

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  17. Hi Guys,

    I had a really bizarre dream that I feel strongly that I need to tell you about...

    I dreamed that I was in bed and woke up to a very bright light outside.

    I looked through the curtain and outside was all lit up with a bright-white artificial light.

    I couldn't see where the light was coming from as it was over to the left where I could not see.

    I immediately thought "oh yay, it's Pakaol!" and tapped on the window to get his attention.

    Suddenly there was a LOUD banging on the window right in front of me - but still I could not see what made the noise - there was nothing directly outside the window - and I jumped back with a fright.

    I then knew immediately that it was not Pakaol and that it was someone or something else and that it was trying to 'trick' me into coming outside thinking that it was Pakaol. It had a sinister intention.

    I did not like what was happening, so knowing that I was dreaming I forced myself to wake up.

    I don't think Pakaol has mentioned any opposition to him... But as I then lay in bed, awake (but still half asleep) I knew that I needed to warn you guys that someone, or something sinister might try to 'trick' us into thinking that it's Pakaol - so we need to be careful.

    I then quickly fell back to sleep and had another dream, but this one was mundane and I assume unrelated; but I am happy to tell you about it if you like.

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    1. Huh :( that doesn't sounds good... I never have any kind of lucid dreams or even remember what I dream, but I'll be aware, and we'll be aware too.

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    2. Hi Luster Of Damask,

      Yeah, normally I wouldn't have thought much of it and normally I would have assumed it was spawned by:

      1. reading this blog and
      2. me being so eager to meet Pakaol that I even thought the air-conditioning unit 'purring' might be him.

      However, I know that some people here hold dreams as high-significance and my immediate thought when I woke myself up from the dream was "I must warn the others", so I thought I better let people know.

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    3. Hello my friend...
      Did you realize if maybe all of this have a meaning? Like, maybe you are being prepared for something big, something unnatural or surreal for your way of reason! I guess, we are linked since the begin, and all of you here (those ones that read everyday) are linked with me too.. I will stay with you since the end my friend.

      Hugs to you.

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    4. Hello my friend,
      Yes, you're right, I certainly do not think that it is just a 'coincidence' that I am here. :)
      Hugs

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    5. Hi Luster Of Damask,

      If you'd like to remember what you dream I can certainly offer some advice :)

      Dreaming occurs during the REM Sleep stage of sleeping, which is basically the time shortly after falling asleep or shortly before waking up.

      When you are deep-sleeping you don't really dream much at all.

      The reason I dream so much is because I have had insomnia for most of my life, so I don't enter into deep-sleep as much.

      So a really easy and natural way to dream more and remember them is simply this: Sleep in! :)

      When you wake up in the morning, try your best to go back to sleep... because your body doesn't 'need' the extra sleep you will be less inclined to go into deep-sleep and you will dream more.
      Then as you wake up again, keep trying to go back to sleep again and again; these are the times you will dream the most and the most vividly.

      Another easy natural way is to have a nap during the day. :)

      An easy way to 'force' yourself to dream is to mimic insomnia: use something like your phone to set an alarm to wake you up breifly every hour or so, like an alarm or even just a beep. The idea is to wake yourself up very briefly and then go back to sleep straight away.
      Because in doing this you're forcing yourself out of deep-sleep you will dream more - also waking yourself up in the middle of a dream makes it easier to remember.

      I hope this helps :)

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    6. Thank you friend! I'm aware of all of this already, I did read about sleep stages to "learn" lucid dreaming once. True is all you say. Two days ago I could remember a dream, but it was a nightmare instead, a quite weird one, but anything paranormal in an ET way haha.

      I appreciate this! I'll keep in mind these tricks be sure I'll try them :)

      Hugs!

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    7. yes interested what is occurring is various states of relaxation, but what humans call a 'dream' can happen in all, if you have coms in that state that is more like meditation and this means you are more likely to receive a 'signal' from someone here in the atmosphere because this is the same as just meditating.

      in a full state of unconsciousness you can move to the 'Mesh' and here you can and will have conversations with qsouls (people) with no 3D body, it's not the same for everyone.

      but this is what Aboriginals call 'The dream time' but again remember the word 'Dream' is just an English word and it programs you to believe this is happening in your head.

      all humans can achieve things they wouldn't believe however earth humans have had many of these 'features' disabled. aboriginals have not - they keep them very secret but know a few of the things they do in private because i was shown.

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    8. Thanks Luster Of Damask,

      I think I can offer some advice about lucid dreaming too :)

      It's actually a lot easier to achieve than some people make it out to be!!

      Okay sure, it did come as something natural to me so I probably do view it as 'easier' than others would, but it's allowed me to learn a lot about it first hand and the same principles apply.

      Did you see my reply / post here about the trigger technique?
      It really is quite effective.

      But even easier and part of the reason why I believe the trigger technique is so effective is simply this:

      Dreams will often incorporate things that have been on your mind recently. For example, if you've been watching a number of episodes of a TV show recently it is not uncommon to have a dream that has something to do with that TV show...

      So basically, just simply think about lucid dreaming a lot (even imagine what it would be like to lucid dream) and next thing you know, you'll find yourself lucid dreaming!!

      Your dreams will incorporate what's been on your mind, i.e. lucid dreaming, and it in itself will act as it's own trigger.

      Within the next hour I will post a reply to Kolin with a bit more description about my lucid dreaming, so I recommend reading that too because actual lucid dream is a little bit different to how a lot of people imagine what it would be like.

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    9. yeah interested as you go you will learn much more - if you meet pak ask him about this vector, i can try to help everyone here learn because we as humans respond better to 'authority figures'

      this link is of a neurosurgeon , unfortunately he thought as many do he went to 'heaven' but in essence he is correct basically your 3D freq is a type of 'filter'

      http://www.ebenalexander.com/

      so yes, if you are 'thinking' about this or that i can explain how this works but really you won't be able to learn unless you experience it yourself or just with actual age.

      your brain matter is the 'USB' drive of your symbols of this 3D plane - it is also a 'filter' for your interpretation of this 3D plane - so lets use a practical example you are thinking about sharks you go to sleep you have a 'dream' about 'sharks' well nope i know it seems like that and as stated you will only learn this properly later.

      what actually occurs is you either have a memory of an experience or a real experience however you can't access any other 'USB drive' for symbols except for the one you have in this 3D plane, (that's why you wake up again) so the symbols of whatever you are having a memory or experience of get changed to a 'shark' now whats the causality result .

      you logically say well, ' i was thinking about sharks i had a dream about sharks, dreams are in my head'

      incorrect, you have either a real experience or a memory of a past real experience and the symbols that was retrieved was a (shark) symbol because that is the closest thing that fits.

      i know you might feel lost when someone says this but if all else fails go with what human 'science' knows (or doesn't) people have actually tried to prove a dream is in your head, failed every time it is a quantum filter.

      it's a matter of investigation so it's going to be hard to learn for me just telling you here i guess.

      the easy way is to just have 'faith' that your dreams are in your head, but then you have to believe your conscious is there also, if you study you will see the correct answer.

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    10. Hi Kolin,

      Sorry I haven't posted my 'reply to you' that I mentioned in my post there...

      I started writing it but then got lost deep in thought.. then started to reminisce... I'll post it soon.



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    11. LOL, it's too long to post.. I'll have to break it up.

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    12. no worries ha ha

      watch this here is a video :

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCRwuJoQAZg

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  18. Now that I have some more time I will tell you all about the dream I had after this one... it seems unrelated, but some may also see a message within it..

    In my second dream, I was at my old-work-mate from several years ago's house for a barbeque or something..
    Him and his wife are the same age as my wife and I, they have a son who was 12 years old at the time.

    Their son brought out a board-game and asked me if I would like to play it with him.

    (this is not out of the ordinary; when I was young I use to get very frustrated at adults who would 'dismiss me' and treat me like I was 'just a stupid kid', so I treat young people with respect, I treat them as persons and I give them 'the time of day' - so often while I was at their house I would be building something or playing games with their son, he is a very intelligent young-person.)

    He asked me if I would play the board-game, at which I said "yes, sure, it will be fun"

    He proceeded to take out the board-game and started assembling it... it was a very complicated looking board game, there were squares on the board, a dice, player-pieces, blocks with letters on them and more.

    I said to him "I've never played this game before, you'll have to teach me how to play and tell me what the rules are"

    He replied "no, you don't need to know how to play, you can figure it out as we go along"

    Somehow knowing that he didn't want to tell me the rules so that he would have an unfair advantage (he likes to win), I said again, "no, you need to tell me the rules!"

    Again, he replied "no, you don't need to know them"

    Getting annoyed I said sternly: "No! You need to tell me how to play the game and what the rules are - otherwise I will refuse to play!"

    This upset the boy.

    His mother, hearing the commotion came in to see what was happening.

    I explained that her son had asked me to play the game with him, but would not tell me how to play and that I was refusing to play if he did not tell me the rules.

    She agreed with me that it was unfair and said to him "Well, if you want him to play, then you need to tell him the rules of the game first".. the look on the boys face was that he was going to reluctantly agree.

    But while she was still talking to him, (i.e. before he told me how to play), I looked back down at the game and somehow I now knew how to play the game - the board was a loop and as you travelled around the loop you would land on squares and collect a letter to spell out a word - the first person to complete the entire word won the game. (I do not know what the word was sorry)

    I even thought to myself "hmm, he was right, I probably could have just figured this out as we played the game."

    This is where the dream ended.

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    1. This dream have a reason,for me, you begun to play a game like a normal people dont know his existence... You will begun to play a game that im still learning to play.. The real life game.

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  19. @interested and everyone ha, ok well lets start from the start guys..

    I want you people to tell me why you believe dreams are NOT significant?
    you should study that, go and look up Dr Eben Alexander, he is a neurosurgeon.

    You have to learn about this game first, do you believe consciousness is in your head? If you do even human science is against you here guys.

    Of course I 100% know it is not, but im trying to help you.

    Yes interested you were definitely visited if you had a feeling then it was correct, hey maybe the aim was just to scare you, and the other dream is directly related, because this is a game, everything that is happening is basic like a game, you are haveing a 3D experience here and you are learning how the game works, in your dream you were both right , you both learn while playing and others can show you parts.

    So the answer is you were both correct.

    The big takeaway is humans have to stop discerning between conscious states otherwise you will put yourself at a large disadvantage. I have been 'attacked' while you would say I was 'asleep' I could not have defended myself if I was 'awake' and would have been at a large disadvantage and this happened even.

    You are always awake. Just in different places. You rest in between, this is where you say its a day dream or a dream memory.

    Now remeber, those that find this hard to comprehend' human science' even agrees with me on this.

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    1. Hi Kolin,

      Yes, the dream certainly was terrifying; especially the part where in my eagerness to meet Pakaol I was just about to go racing outside to see whom I thought was him... only it wasn't Pakaol!

      Had I done so I would have put myself at great risk.

      I believe that is the point, it was supposed to be terrifying; the message has been portrayed loud and clear.

      The rhetorical questions you pose Kolin, are interesting...

      Can I conceive how my mind and subconcious could possibly contruct such a thing as this dream I had? - Yes, absolutely.

      Can I equally conceive the possibility that this dream could have been influenced by an external force? - Yes, yes I can.

      Well which one is it then? I guess that is up to each individual to interpret the way that they choose to view these things.

      But where does the actual truth exist? I believe it is somewhere in the middle ground inbetween the two extremes.

      For example:
      >I want you people to tell me why you believe dreams are NOT significant?

      One extreme would say ALL dreams are significant; where as the other extreme would say NONE are significant... where as I believe the actual truth exists somewhere in the middle...

      That some dreams are significant.

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    2. Right to the point of the thing. I totally agree with you. However I admire how Tunt remembers all of his dreams, but they aren't normal dreams anyway.

      Stay fien you both!

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    3. I agree; Tunt's dreams are not just dreams. They are most certainly significant :)

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  20. @interested
    it depends on what you call ' great risk' -?
    No advanced entity would be silly enough to outright attack you, they would use a silly surrogate like a human to do that.

    "Dreams"
    Ha ha this all makes me laugh i guess because it is so obvious to me, but i guess that is how you learn things right?

    no your Brain what that is, is a Q computer - it interprets your Qsoul in the mesh you can see your Brain as the main interpretation point for what you are here in the 3D plane that's all it is.

    now i would challenge anyone to prove me wrong. go out and seek the smartest physicists you know and prove that statement wrong.

    what you are is not in your head this is not 'new age' metaphysics its fact.

    if you believe your brain is creating your reality you are being tricked and you will learn more in the future and then you will be that much wiser, i can even tell you that some 'advanced races' still have not mastered this lesson fully.

    but if you can learn this you are that much further ahead.

    when you say you think you have a 'not important' 'dream' then that's just a memory you had that wasn't important - and the in-between time is you thinking about nothing, like daydreaming.

    i know it's hard to undo years of programming but i have to tell you anther thing guys:

    most humans have had their IQ lowered, 'human leaders' did this on purpose though generations of Vaccines what you call 'Autism' is just an extreme throwback of what most of the population of earth has got, fortunately most can recover.

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    2. Reply to Kolin - Part 1 of 4 (/facepalm)

      Hi Kolin,

      I believe I can offer you some insight into the dynamic of dreams to further compliment your existing knowledge, as I have had the unique opportunity to study dreams first-hand from the inside out.

      I have this insight due to:
      1. I'm an insomniac and seem to dream more often and more vividly than the average person.
      2. I will often remember my dreams in detail, especially if lucid.
      3. I have had 20+ odd years of natural lucid dreaming (i.e. the ability to lucid dream came to me naturally)

      What I am about to write comes completely from my own personal experiences.

      Please feel free to ask me any specific questions you may have.

      Disclaimer: I'm not posting this to argue, but simply to offer my own unique perspective... in fact, re-reading your posts I think you'll find that much of what I'm about to write will actually reaffirm your existing beliefs.
      Note: My rhetorical questions are not directed at you Kolin, as you already have your own personal answers to them.

      Where to start? Okay, have you read my post about the 'clover dream'? This - is where we need to start.

      ** Dreams: **

      Dreams, in all aspects, appear very real - and in great detail too.

      Not only did I investigate the clover plant, but I also looked at the hills in the distance, the clouds in the sky, the setting sun, the grassy fields in which I stood, the house and road I could see in the distance, my own hand; they appear so real that I can see no way that anyone whilst inside a dream could distinguish between a dream and reality.

      I believe this is why nightmares are so frightening, because in all aspects to one experiencing a nightmare, it is as real as every day life.

      It does pose some interesting (rhetorical) questions: Is the mind capable of creating an entire world like this, in such detail, all on it's own? (if so, the mind must be far more powerful than we give it credit for) Or are there more to the nature of dreams than meets the eye?

      When we wake, we only remember fragments of dreams and only a very small percentage of the detail, thus once awake it is very easy to distinguish between a dream and reality - but whilst you remain inside the dream it's a different story.

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      ** Their significance? **

      I can say with confidence that not all dreams are deep and meaningful or significant; however, some dreams most certainly are.

      Dreams will often incorporate things that have been on your mind...
      Not just your conscious mind, but they will also play on things that are within your sub/unconscious mind.

      Sometimes dreams will incorporate past memories.

      * Sometimes it is very easy to logically see exactly where a dream has come from and it is purely of earthly / common origins.

      For example:
      If you've been watching a lot of episodes of a TV program it is not uncommon to have a dream incorporating that TV program.

      Another example:
      When working on project at work it is not uncommon that I will have a dream relating to the project... if it's a particularly stressful project it is not uncommon that I will have a dream where what I 'subconsciously' fear might go wrong with that project - does go wrong.
      The dream is simply playing on those subconscious fears, or, is bringing them into the 'foreground'.

      * There are dreams that have a logical source of origin, but also contain a deep and meaningful message...

      Take my dream about my work-mate's son for example:
      That old work-mate had been on my mind recently, so it is not surprising to me that I had a dream where I was doing something that we normally use to do - having a barbeque at his house and me playing a game with his son - however, there appears to be a message incorporated into that dream in form of the board game.

      * However, there are some dreams that have no logical source of origin.

      I have even had dreams where I have received a solution or answers to a problem that I have not been able to figure out while awake.


      It does pose some interesting (rhetorical) questions:
      Do these dreams that contain a 'message of significance' come from our own minds? Are they simply our mind processing data and stitching together connections which it's bringing into the foreground?
      Or do these messages come from some external source?

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    4. Reply to Kolin - Part 3 of 4

      ** Lucid Dreaming: **

      I have much I could say on this topic... too much to fit in this post...

      Virtually every time I dream I have some underlying awareness that I am indeed dreaming - the dreams play out as they do, however in the back of my mind I almost always know that I am dreaming. (let's call this partial awareness)

      Then there is 'full awareness' which is where I am completely aware and conscious that I am dreaming, it is as if I am fully awake inside the dream. It's pretty cool.

      When I lucid dream with 'full awareness' I can remember everything about the dream in great detail, as much detail as I can in everyday life.

      With 'partial awareness' I can usually remember most of the dream however some parts can become slightly fragmented.. it seems the greater the awareness, the more detail I remember.

      Partial Awareness:
      This is very useful in situations where a dream turns bad or when I don't like what is happening...

      For example: Let's say in a dream someone is chasing me, trying to attack me.. I run down an alley way and it's a dead end! I've got no where to go, there is no way out!!.. or is there? Knowing that it is a dream I'll simply wake myself up.

      The best way to describe it is like someone wearing a virtual-reality headset playing a computer game.. the whole time they know in the back of their mind that they are playing a game, but whilst in the game they are fully into it - however - if things get too intense they can always just remove the headset and end it.

      There are other times where I will go from 'partial awareness' to 'full awareness' and take control of the situation, like saving the people from fire posted here.

      Full Awareness - what it is, and what it isn't:

      This.. is most interesting. Kolin, I think you will find this part the most confirming to your own beliefs.

      I am completely 'awake' and conscious inside the dream, as my waking-self.

      I have complete and utter control over myself and limited control of the immediate environment in the dream.

      The dream-environment is separate to myself.

      I cannot control other people in the dream, as in, they remain as individuals separate to myself.

      Other people in the dream are free-thinking; they have a mind and a personality of their own, different and separate to my own mind.

      At times these other individuals become surprised or confused at any 'impossible' or 'miraculous' feats I perform in the dream - they themselves are completely unaware that they are within a dream.

      Full awareness is actually difficult to maintain, it becomes more difficult to maintain the longer it progresses... it's almost as if I 'forget', or as if the dream itself is constantly trying to regain control.

      As above, I should more accurately say I experience "periods of full awareness" as the dream will inevitably and seamlessly regain control... eventually.

      Sometimes I 'fight' with the dream to maintain control myself and I will resist it.

      It is almost as if the dream itself has a consciousness and a mind of it's own... I can't control the dream itself, only aspects of the dream; but certainly can control myself in entirety within the dream.

      The more I interact with the dream-environment the quicker the dream itself will regain control; i.e. if I keep to myself and do not try to manipulate anything refrain from interact with any other people in the dream I can maintain full-awareness for much much longer, but the more I try to manipulate things or interact with others, the quicker the dream regains control.

      I can wake myself at will.

      I can leave a dream and 'port' myself into an entirely different dream at will; however this new dream almost immediately attains full control.

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      ** Other interesting aspects of dreams and me: **

      Sometimes I experience 'dream memories' where I will have memories inside a dream that are not from the waking-world... they are like they are memories from within the dream, but from before the dream.

      Contrary to popular belief it is indeed possible to die in a dream, as in, I have died in dreams... it is very disconcerting and left me feeling very odd the following day.

      Though other people in my dreams are separate to myself, sometimes I know what they are thinking - not as in 'hearing their thoughts', but sometimes I just somehow I know.

      You can feel physical pain in dreams... one time in a dream I felt a sharp pain in my arm and, aware that I was dreaming thought that it must be happening to my real-life-body (I thought my cat must have been digging it's claws into me) - so I forced myself to wake up - however, as I faded out of the dream into the waking world so did the pain fade! When completely awake the pain was gone.. I realised the physical pain was actually part of the dream.

      Contrary to popular belief dreams are in full-colour, realistic colour, just like every-day-life. Maybe people simply don't remember the colour?

      I have never experienced sleep-paralysis.. in fact it's almost the opposite in that my body remains fairly fluid whilst dreaming, so much so I often kick off my covers - and even my bedclothes - in my sleep.

      When lucid dreaming I can distinct between my 'real-life-body' and my 'dream-body' if I so think about it.

      In my younger years I have used my lucid dreaming ability for carnal reasons.. I am not proud of this.

      There have been times where I've sleep-talked, so much so that I've sat up in bed, looked directly at my wife and asked her a question which didn't make and sense... when she replied "What??" I said sternly in an almost 'did you not hear me' tone: "I said, [question]!!??"... when she gave me an "I don't know" answer I lay back down and proceeded to snore.. it was only then that she realised I was asleep the entire time.

      Contrary to popular belief you can actually snore at the same time as dreaming! How do I know? Because from within a lucid dream I could hear my own real-life body snoring.

      Often in a half-asleep state I have an overwhelming sensation that there is something that I need to do.. something that I must do, and there is a sense of great urgency...

      As above, I once walked all the way into another room until I fully woke up completely and realised I had been dreaming. (I guess this could be defined as sleep-walking)

      Similarly to the above I once I shouted out LOUD (from my real-life-body) an obviously fake laugh "HA HA HA!" because from within a semi-lucid dream I felt that I 'had' to... The next morning my wife asked me WTF that was all about.

      As a child / teen nightmares were such a regular occurrence that in virtually every dream something or someone was trying to 'get' me... logically thinking I suspect that this is the reason why I developed the natural ability to lucid dream as way to combat these.. then it developed into something far greater than just a 'coping mechanism'.

      Physics in dreams is different to that of the waking-world... some things that work a certain way in the waking-world do not necessarily work the same way within a dream.

      Animals also dream, it is not only a human condition. I have personally witnessed my cat in REM stage sleep, eyes moving under the lists whilst he chattered and flicked his paws.

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    6. Sorry for the excessively long post guys...

      It was supposed to be brief but I got a little carried away...

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    7. very interesting , interested ha.

      yes just read what i wrote, your are pretty much correct, your mind is a filter, for your qsoul you will have to learn this on your own path but if you don't worry as i stated even 'advanced' races struggle with this brain / quantum separation, i have spent 1000s of 'years' there friend , but then its hard to explain because as i stated a 'year' is just a spin of this little (but still important planet) around its little sun.

      i oversaw portal in the mesh for 1000s of years before i came here, just like you, you have have many lives you cant right now remember , but if you are here you have had many.

      its important to note that not all races take as long as humans to develop to this point, human development has been slow most races have technology that outstrips their 'meditative' self aware advancements, humans should see slow development in this case as a blessing not a curse.

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    8. Hello friends,

      I thought I would share with you another funny dream thing that happened to me this morning...

      This morning I woke up to my wife shaking my shoulder and looking at me with a VERY concerned look on her face... because... I was laughing in my sleep!! :D

      (in my dream I looked down to see an animal licking my foot, it was such a hilarious sight)

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  21. Tunt , tomorrow im getting some information our group told me is some 'big news' ive basically spoken to the 'Zetas' and can you tell Pakaol I'd like to meet him and discuss all this, from my point of view these guys are in our group I am intertwined with and we T and I are the representatives for earth for our group, so to that degree it's in my interest to try to solve this where everyone (including humans) get the outcome we all want.
    Do I think I can? Probably not, I don't have high expectations because I expect the little information I have is 'scratching the surface' to the larger differences these guys have Paks group and the Zetas.
    This I know extends far beyond this 'little island' out here (as it was described to me) but big picture, can it hurt to have a dialog?
    Nope.
    At worse we will learn more, I can ask Pak some questions (even about me)
    At best we can maybe find some common ground I can go back and say 'ok this this and that'
    If that can happen at least its progress also I will share the basic designs I had for humans he might (or may not ) find this useful for 'eden' it is a customized system for the configuration of humans, based on economics and sociology, it is freedom based but equalizes critically some key vectors, I could explain it or draw a simple pic someone of Paks capabilities would understand quickly I think.

    So if you can pass this on, im happy to meet anywhere any time, on his terms, I don't formally represent the Zetas but I am our group 82 races here presently (im told) representative on/ for Earth.

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  22. Tunt interested everyone thought id share ive been told to watch a movie ive never heard of called 'dark skies' - this came from the guys humans call 'grays' but this gets confused because in the movie (haven't watched yet) the Zetas are portrayed, howver humorously the 'Grays' told me the Zetas are pretty unhappy at this movie because of the way they are portrayed.

    I guess I will know more when I watch.

    The Grays may or may not have found this amusing ha (the portrayal I mean)

    You have to understand the galaxy is not all as serious as everyone makes out, I've found humans are very stressed. (This is obviously I understand environmental)

    So if you can torrent etc this movie watch it, also the 'news' was not related to Pak it was just telling me a group of humans are planning to kill me (again no new news there lol )

    We will play 'bang ya got me' with them ever played that with a kid?

    The Zetas love it apparently thats a joke for Pak he might get it. It relates to that ship.

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    1. Oh hey i've seen that movie a while ago, it creeped me out honestly. I was also about to watch it again last night with my sister! But then we got freaked out because as I was reading a quote at the beginning of the movie out loud, mid sentence, we heard these like rapid tap noises right outside the window. I thought "weird". Few moments later I tried to scare my sister by saying I saw someone move out by the door right after I said that, again, we heard a faint noise out there, like a knock against a wall. It was right on cue. She totally got scared but strangely I wasn't as scared as I thought I'd be because I'm usually more of a chicken than her lol. Anyways, it could've just been a cat or something hah.

      The movie is on Netflix-for those that have an account there

      & Kolin be careful though even if it's not serious, you never know..you know?

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  23. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2387433/

    This one just to be clear I have my popcorn lol

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  24. @openmindxo

    Oh yeah I know, I know a lot.

    ok yeah so I just watched that, lets take a step back its a movie, the Rits (otherwise known as Zetas) seem to be portrayed but its not really certain, but there a lots of aspects that are accurate.

    - I.e streetlights their smaller servvice ships interrupted them all the time.
    - disturbance in video electrical ive seen people say this was 'ghosts'
    - Other things.

    Point to note guys in some cases a guy visiting a kid say of 10 yrs old maybe also 10yrs old.
    These guys are virtually identical and you would not be able to recognize thier age, so lets say a 10ry old Rit visited a 10yr old kid, one (the human) is going to obviously look what we think 10yrs old is the Rit 10yr old kid will look too a human as (a scary alien).

    Sometimes it might just be a matter of saying hello, but implants do exist they are a thing.

    Not a good 'marketing' movie I have suggested a reshoot maybe as a musical, we have to get anlther race in called 'Verge' they are basically blue furry guys and kinda look like 'Grover' from sesame street, but they have unique telekinesis abilities, loveable guys. 'Grovsie' one guy we know that is hanging out on earht here with us would be keen.

    Mary poppins style Rits are still in but much more dancing.

    Who's with me?

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  25. Hope tunts still about we have a nice community feel here , hey tunt have you been able to speak to Pak and co?
    Im keen to meet anytime, I feel we can share a lot,
    any medium im happy with.
    I want to show him some devices also, but only for info. Even a call , a text don't get me wrong im not being needy (thats a joke)
    But seriously I need to get the scope here on the 'big picture'

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